chinese holly?

ivana · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: chinese holly?

I hope you can see it now..the leaves in the picture are dry and crisp but before they were toothed glossy and dark green.

Mo, i think you are right - it looks like it might be a Chinese Holly - thank you so much for identifying it (without even seeing the picture)!

Do you know what can i do to make it recover? I does not look better today even though i watered it lots..

I will wait til you confirm it definitely is a Chinese Holly and in that case put it in the garden (in the shop they told me it is a indoor tree but they could not even tell me what species it was so.. c'est la vie.

Looking forward to your reply,

warm regards

ivana

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bonsaiart · White Belt Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 6

I'm not sure if it definitely is a Chinese holly but I have never seen chickens in a bonsai pot before...

RossDas · White Belt Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 24

Did you buy it in a garden center? It looks like a Japanese elm.

imholte · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

The chickens are awesome Laughing

One note to the health of this tree. The soil is horrendous. I think that the problem you are having with this tree is that its roots are waterlogged. It looks recently repotted with very poor soil with too many fines in it. I would definatly repot it now into some proper soil.

Check out this article on repotting, this one too.

RossDas · White Belt Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 24

I'd recommend taking it out of the pot and letting the roots dry, if the roots get soggy and rotten then it could permanently damage the tree.

imholte · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

Stymie · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

I believe that you have an Ulmus parvifolia Ivana. The sticky post at the top of this forum entitled Chinese Elm will be helpful.

Crazeegang · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

Yep this looks exactly like the Chinese Elms I bought from B and Q but the leaves are smaller than normal. This is an outdoor tree but will require frost protection. Get it outside asap and see how you go. Soil isn't great in them but mine does drain pretty well.

Toni

Stymie · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

My article in the A to Z form will provide a fuller picture of the needs and care.

ivana · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

Thank you all for your answers,
hope you had a great weekend..

I checked many pictures online, of all the trees you mentioned and i must say that my tree it resembles Chinese Holly the best..its just very hard to tell, the picture i provided you with does not really look like my tree when it was healthy..
However, its been in the garden for a few days now and it looks much better (crispy leaves fell off and lots of brand new ones started to grow) which makes me very happy.
Its my first bonsai and i know how wrong i could have gone with it..

Thank you for the advice! Looking forward to visiting and learning from your site.

ivana

mo's bonsai · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: chinese holly?

Yep! That definitely is not a Chinese holly, I agree with what everyone is saying, it does look like a Chinese elm. Poor Elm. Is it still inside? Use super-thrive when you re-pot, it will help in the exposure shock from one pot to another. Remove from the pot and remove all that soil and soak in water with super-thrive for about 5 to 10 min. and then re-pot with well draining soil. don't feed until you see new shoots spring up, only water when needed. and keep out of direct sun during it's recovery. Good luck!

Mo

mo's bonsai · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: Re: chinese holly?

sorry I didn't read the previous post, glad to hear your Elm is doing fine.

Mo