Bookmark us!

Talk Bonsai The Classroom Cultivation Styling Maintenance Techniques Hardware Show us your Bonsai Bonsai A-Z Search BonsaiHelp Bonsai Books Edit your profile Join for FREE! The Potting Shed Bonsai Links New - Members Tree Gallery!
Latest Post from the Bonsai School
The friendly community that shares answers to everything bonsai

 Join for FREE!  | FAQCheck my private messages | Log in 
Welcome to BonsaiHelp - Want to talk Bonsai? - Join here for FREE! or read the latest topics!
Hey, New here...
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bonsai Help Forum Index -> Talk Bonsai
Author Message
Kev
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 15

uk.gif
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

hey guys !!!

Well, a few months ago i bought some little potted bonsai, now upon purchasing i was asking many questions upon how to care for them, i was keen to get them into bonsai pots howver was told to keep them in plant pots, and treat them as normal plants for atleast a year, and then think about begining to bonsai them...

so, they where doing pretty well, growing like mad, getting pretty bushy, being treted like plants and all... however recently, they seemed to start to dry out, being watered once everyother day, i upped it a little and they still got no better. the guy at the graden center did tell me to move them to bigger normal pots, and gave me some soil to do it, i never got round to it however i got fed up of seeing them misserable and did this today... (before and after pics)
http://www.bonsaihelp.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=7007#7007

basicly, why where they going like that ? and have i done the right thing ? all the plants are kept indoors and on a windowsil, should i be putting them outside ? i was a little worried as they are so small and delicate...also before when they where doing well, i was sparying them rather than pouring water into them, but i didnt have much time so soon started pouring onto them, they seemed ok with this atfirst is that wrong ? now i have repotted them all, and gave them a good spraying Smile

did i do right or wrong ? anything else i should be doing ?

Thanks
oh yes, also im new to plants as a whole, true newbie... sorry Sad
Kev
Back to top
Tuppence2
Brown Belt
Brown Belt


Joined: 06 Feb 2005
Posts: 2052
Location: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England (Weather Zone 8)

uk.gif
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

Hello Kev.

Nice to see you here. No need to be sorry! Someone will be along later, I'm sure, to help you out.

Penny Smile
Back to top
Moldy
Yellow Belt
Yellow Belt


Joined: 10 Apr 2005
Posts: 206
Location: Tygelsjö, Sweden (Zone 7)

sweden.gif
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

Hi Kev,

I think the first order of the day is to ID exactly what you have, then you can come up with a plan of action. I guess the most important thing is are they indoor or outdoor trees. Once you know that, you can then set about looking for TLC instructions. To me, they look like indoor trees?

I water my trees (both indoor and out) every day in the evening, until the water starts to come out of the holes at the bottom of the pot. The indoor trees get good light, and some are misted regularly if they require high humidity. I even keep some in the bathroom in the morning so they get the benefit of the shower Smile

I have also just repotted my indoor trees, and will reduce watering for a few weeks. I think this may be to either encourage root growth, avoid rot or both!

Feeding is also required I expect, but not for another month or so following repotting (again, may be to encourage growth?). Most trees seem to need feeding once every 2 weeks, but not with a standard indoor plant food, as the ratios of Nitrogen(N), Phosphorus(P) and Potassium(K) are insufficient. So you may have to order some specialised bonsai food: an NPK of 777 should do for a start.

Perhaps a bonsai book would help? A quick look at eBay shows plenty listed under 'Bonsai Book'. The Peter Chan one is rubbish, but the Harry Tomlinson one is good for information, and the one by David Pike I have found to be easy to follow for methodology.

Anyway, good luck!

Ian
Back to top
Dick
Black Belt
Black Belt


Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 9348
Location: Western New York State, USA - Zone 4b

usa.gif
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

All the trees and cuttings that you show are serissas. Check out the A-Z forum for specific information about their care. They are a bit tricky to grow and can be frustrating to new bonsai people. They do not like to ever be dry for any reason. One lissed watering, even by a day, can be disastrous. I suspect that is what originally happened with your, or they got a cold draft from being too near a cold window. You did the right thing for now.

Good luck and come back again with any questions.
Back to top
Stymie
Black Belt
Black Belt


Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 10693
Location: S.Yorks.UK where the sun used to shine

uk.gif
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

Being a bit suspicious, I wonder if they are in a centrally heated room, where there is not much air circulation and humidity. Both of which are beneficial.
Back to top
steve
Black Belt
Black Belt


Joined: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 3231
Location: SW Washington,USA

usa.gif
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

I'm going with Stymie on this one. They appear to be inside.
Back to top
Kev
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 15

uk.gif
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

Kev wrote:
all the plants are kept indoors and on a windowsil, should i be putting them outside ?


Yes inddors, actually right above the radiator, i thought that being there in the winter when being spayed it would help with humidty, the window is often open slightly, and hasnt been comming on for atleast 2 months now... but its only recently i had the problem ?

ive had a little look at the care for serissas, so they are sold as indoors plants but should really be outdoors ? 2 of them where labelled as serissas but the other 2 where labelled as something else... ill try to find the labels later.

thanks for the help guys Smile

Kev
Back to top
Moldy
Yellow Belt
Yellow Belt


Joined: 10 Apr 2005
Posts: 206
Location: Tygelsjö, Sweden (Zone 7)

sweden.gif
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... Reply with quote

I think they should be well away from the radiator, as this will artifically dry the soil out and also there is low humidity there?

Serissa's are an evergreen shrub from S.E. Asia so should be inside most of the time but may be ok outside on summer days?

I just repotted by Serissa and it is a bit stressed (yellow leaves), but plenty of green shoots are showing so I think it is ok.

I am taking advice from this site and keeping it out of full sun for a few weeks.

Good luck!
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bonsai Help Forum Index -> Talk Bonsai All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
 

 
To access the Bonsai School - upgrade your membership! - Subscription questions or problems?
Home | Search | A-Z | Links | Galleries | Swap Shop| Bonsai Books | My Profile
Talk Bonsai | The Classroom | Potting Shed | Cultivation | Styling | Maintenance | Techniques | Hardware | Show us yours
Terms of use | FAQ | Bookmark us!
Powered by phpBB and Host Yorkshire - World Class Internet!