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Kev White Belt

Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 15

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:41 pm Post subject: Hey, New here... |
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hey guys !!!
Well, a few months ago i bought some little potted bonsai, now upon purchasing i was asking many questions upon how to care for them, i was keen to get them into bonsai pots howver was told to keep them in plant pots, and treat them as normal plants for atleast a year, and then think about begining to bonsai them...
so, they where doing pretty well, growing like mad, getting pretty bushy, being treted like plants and all... however recently, they seemed to start to dry out, being watered once everyother day, i upped it a little and they still got no better. the guy at the graden center did tell me to move them to bigger normal pots, and gave me some soil to do it, i never got round to it however i got fed up of seeing them misserable and did this today... (before and after pics)
http://www.bonsaihelp.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=7007#7007
basicly, why where they going like that ? and have i done the right thing ? all the plants are kept indoors and on a windowsil, should i be putting them outside ? i was a little worried as they are so small and delicate...also before when they where doing well, i was sparying them rather than pouring water into them, but i didnt have much time so soon started pouring onto them, they seemed ok with this atfirst is that wrong ? now i have repotted them all, and gave them a good spraying
did i do right or wrong ? anything else i should be doing ?
Thanks
oh yes, also im new to plants as a whole, true newbie... sorry
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Tuppence2 Brown Belt

Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 2038 Location: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England (Weather Zone 8)

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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Hello Kev.
Nice to see you here. No need to be sorry! Someone will be along later, I'm sure, to help you out.
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Moldy Yellow Belt

Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 206 Location: Tygelsjö, Sweden (Zone 7)

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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Hi Kev,
I think the first order of the day is to ID exactly what you have, then you can come up with a plan of action. I guess the most important thing is are they indoor or outdoor trees. Once you know that, you can then set about looking for TLC instructions. To me, they look like indoor trees?
I water my trees (both indoor and out) every day in the evening, until the water starts to come out of the holes at the bottom of the pot. The indoor trees get good light, and some are misted regularly if they require high humidity. I even keep some in the bathroom in the morning so they get the benefit of the shower
I have also just repotted my indoor trees, and will reduce watering for a few weeks. I think this may be to either encourage root growth, avoid rot or both!
Feeding is also required I expect, but not for another month or so following repotting (again, may be to encourage growth?). Most trees seem to need feeding once every 2 weeks, but not with a standard indoor plant food, as the ratios of Nitrogen(N), Phosphorus(P) and Potassium(K) are insufficient. So you may have to order some specialised bonsai food: an NPK of 777 should do for a start.
Perhaps a bonsai book would help? A quick look at eBay shows plenty listed under 'Bonsai Book'. The Peter Chan one is rubbish, but the Harry Tomlinson one is good for information, and the one by David Pike I have found to be easy to follow for methodology.
Anyway, good luck!
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Dick Black Belt

Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 8828 Location: Western New York State, USA - Zone 4b

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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All the trees and cuttings that you show are serissas. Check out the A-Z forum for specific information about their care. They are a bit tricky to grow and can be frustrating to new bonsai people. They do not like to ever be dry for any reason. One lissed watering, even by a day, can be disastrous. I suspect that is what originally happened with your, or they got a cold draft from being too near a cold window. You did the right thing for now.
Good luck and come back again with any questions. |
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Stymie Black Belt

Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 10031 Location: S.Yorks.UK Zone 8a I think the migraine is coming back.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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| Being a bit suspicious, I wonder if they are in a centrally heated room, where there is not much air circulation and humidity. Both of which are beneficial. |
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steve Black Belt

Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 2959 Location: SW Washington,USA

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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| I'm going with Stymie on this one. They appear to be inside. |
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Kev White Belt

Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 15

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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| Kev wrote: |
| all the plants are kept indoors and on a windowsil, should i be putting them outside ? |
Yes inddors, actually right above the radiator, i thought that being there in the winter when being spayed it would help with humidty, the window is often open slightly, and hasnt been comming on for atleast 2 months now... but its only recently i had the problem ?
ive had a little look at the care for serissas, so they are sold as indoors plants but should really be outdoors ? 2 of them where labelled as serissas but the other 2 where labelled as something else... ill try to find the labels later.
thanks for the help guys
Kev |
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Moldy Yellow Belt

Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 206 Location: Tygelsjö, Sweden (Zone 7)

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Hey, New here... |
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I think they should be well away from the radiator, as this will artifically dry the soil out and also there is low humidity there?
Serissa's are an evergreen shrub from S.E. Asia so should be inside most of the time but may be ok outside on summer days?
I just repotted by Serissa and it is a bit stressed (yellow leaves), but plenty of green shoots are showing so I think it is ok.
I am taking advice from this site and keeping it out of full sun for a few weeks.
Good luck! |
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