When to ....

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Put the plants back outdoors and anything to do before hand Question

OK guys the weather in the UK has been cold lately so when do we look to perhaps stat putting the trees back out and what do you guys do before hand ?

Thanks for any help Very Happy

jimothy · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

If you're talking about hardy (or temperate zone) trees, then you should never have brought them inside - it will only confuse them and cause more problems than it solves.

If you're talking about sub-tropical or tropical trees, then we're probably a long way from putting them outside yet - give us the names and we'll try to be more specific....

keithmart · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

Hi

Most 'indoor' trees can go out once the temperature is consistantly above 10C (50F)

It is a good idea to introduce them gently by only putting them out for the warmest part of the day at first and gradually leaving them longer until you don't bring them in anymore.

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Hi guys,

These are outdoor ones and have just been brought into the shed and garage i cant find the names and i did have it written down Rolling Eyes

I thought we needed to protect them from frost Confused

Here are some pictures which may help while i look for the info:

http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10194/normal_Bonsai%201% 20Larch.JPG

http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10194/normal_Bonsai%202% 20Japanese%20Maple.JPG

http://www.koipix.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10194/normal_Bonsai%203% 20Chinese%20Elm.JPG

Cheers guys Very Happy

yamadorinige · Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

Those would have been alright left outside unprotected. It would be best to put them outside A.S.A.P the artificial temperatures and lack of light in the garage will encourage soft leggy growth that is not desirable on bonsai

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Hi Nige,

Thanks for that i will do i was told that the frost could damage them Rolling Eyes

Wouldn't the snow we just had knock them back Question

The two in the garage have just gone back to branches but the other one is still nice and green and probably needs a bit of a trim Very Happy

Thanks for you help Very Happy

imholte · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:19 am Post subject: Re: When to ....

Your maple will lose all its leaves if they freeze. This is why you should leave them outside so that they leaf out when the temperature is right.

Looks like a larch, maple, and an elm.

Stymie · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: Re: When to ....

The group is Pseudolarix amabilis. The third picture looks rather like Buxus. The specie of Acer in between is difficult to name but they all have the same requirements. Numbers 1 and 2 are both deciduous.

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Hi Guys,

Today i have put the trees back outside today as it seems you guys think that will be best Very Happy

Is there anything else i should be doing to them and how often should they be watered Confused

Sorry for all the questions but i am hoping to try to keep these ones alive a bit longer Very Happy

yamadorinige · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

At the moment Mother nature should take care of the watering requirement, but don't entirely rely on this as the slightest bit of sun or wind can dry the soil out pretty quickly. The best thing is to check regularly and if they are looking on the dryish side, water them

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Hi Nige,

The first two in my pictures above where in the garage and all the leaved had fallen of and have not been watered at all and are bone dry at the moment the last one has been gently watered as i thought being an evergreen it would need a little water.....probably wrong again Rolling Eyes

I am just looking through the site at potting and stuff Very Happy

yamadorinige · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

Trees don't need as much water when they don't have leaves, but they will still need a little to survive. If the great British weather hasn't already watered them for you, it would be best if you gave them a gentle watering

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

The trees have had a water and they was bone dry just hope they are still alive Shocked

Now i see some people their pots in some kind of trays is this so they can put water in the tray or just to stop all the water going everywhere Question

yamadorinige · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

Those would be humidity trays that you have seen, they are trays that have a small amount of water in them and stones or gravel to hold the pot above the level of the water. The idea is to increase the humidity around the tree to reduce transpiration from the leaves. They are usually used with sub-tropical species as they are not really of much use with outdoor trees as the wind dissipates the effect of the evaporated water vapour

Gazza · White Belt Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Essex

Thanks again i seem to be learning bit by bit Very Happy

yamadorinige · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: When to ....

It is a continual learning process, however much you think you know there is always more to learn. I have been growing bonsai for 17 years and I am still learning new things all the time!