Sageretia Chinese plum

Jackyboy · Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: Sageretia Chinese plum

A few question about Sageretia, Chinese Plum.

Does this plant have thorns? What kind of plum does it bare?

It seems that my plum tree is of this variety. Mine have thorns and bare round fruits about the size of a 20P cents.

Is that common about all Segeretia?

Neo · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Mine deffinatly does not have thorns and it hasnt flowered yet either so i dunno Confused

Jackyboy · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

The leaves description and the pics I've seen on the internet look similar to mine. It does give brown/bronze leaves when it get out of the bud.

I've gathered info and someone told me that here it will bare fruits in late september. As soon as I see the first of a flower, I'm starting to feed it with 13-13-20. Now iIm using 13-13-13.

As soon as I cut it a new bud forms after 1 week and shoot new leaves.

BTW lads, one question, how do you take cuttings for a new plum tree. I read that you take a cutting and let in in water for 2-3 weeks and then pot it. I've taken 5 cuttings and it has been in water for one week the leaves are still shiny.

Are they suppose to have root formation after leaving them for 3 weeks in water?

cheers

JB

LiteratiLarry · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

I would imagine you would only get fruit and flowers on a mature teree, and one that isnt so heavily pruned. Tho its labelled a plum it is of course unrelated(actually related to Galium aparine - Cleavers-Rubiaceae)
if youre interested:
http://www.first-nature.com/flowers/galium_aparine.htm

As for cuttings, i would imagine they would root easy in water if you take soft cuttings.

Jackyboy · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

The previous owner told me it gave fruits before.

Thanks for the Info, I shall wait for couple of more weeks to see if there's any sign of new roots. Wink

Cheers

JB

Dick · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

There is the chinese sweetplum (sageretia) and the natal plum. The latter has thorns, deep green shiny leaves, white flowers that come on fairly younger plants, and purple-reddish colored "plums." It is often used for bonsai and is easy to grow. Perhaps you might light to look at that possibility for your tree rather than the sageretia which is much harder to bring into flower and fruit.

Jackyboy · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Hi, I've compared the leaves to pics I've found on the internet. I think it is a chinese sweet plum.

I just took a picture from my tree. Question

http://jackyboy.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=SL

http://jackyboy.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=SL&i d=SL

Cheers

JB

Dick · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

From your photo it appears to be a sageretia. Not certain about the variety though.

LiteratiLarry · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

I thought there was only one sageretia, that is theezans

Jackyboy · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Hello guys,

Finally saw roots shooting from the cuttings I took. Cool

It has been in water soaking. It does work Very Happy

I'll be potting them soon.

Cheers

JB.

steve · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Congratulations. For the next few years I would recommend planting them in pots at least a couple of sizes too big to allow for room to grow faster and fuller.

Jackyboy · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Cheers, ta for the advice. I'll put them in a resonable size plastic pot, I'll be giving them away to friends.

LiteratiLarry · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: Natal plum, very different

I did a search on Natal plum.
Its a plant called Carissa microcarpa,family Apocynaceae which includes Desert rose ,Vinca, Trachelospermum and Nerium Oleander!

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Apocynaceae/Carissa_macrocarpa. html

Dick · Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Sageretia Chinese plum

Carissa and sageretia are two different trees, even though they both have the word "plum" in their common names.