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leejr
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

can anyone tell me if there is a alternative i can use instead of superthrive that i can get from a garden center or D.I.Y store.
I repotted my serrisa and she is showing signs of decline, i.e leaves turning yellow and shriveling up, she looks very unhappy Sad
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Stymie
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

There seems to be more about these days but in case of difficulty order on line here http://www.kaizenbonsai.com/shop/index.php Graham also sells Rootsafe, frit and various other tonics.
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leejr
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

OK cheers Don Wink
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mr.schefflera
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

HB-101 works very well
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Stymie
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Someone has been reading his Bonsai Focus. Rolling Eyes
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leejr
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

OK thanks,mr.schefflera.
but i ordered some superthrive in the end. just wish it would hurry up and arrive, fingers crossed it will be with me tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Is HB- 101 a tonic or fertilizer, never heard of it.

ken
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

i think its a tonic!

check this link
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Thanks hungkuen, after reading that, i don't know how i have ever managed.

but i think i will stick with superthrive

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

I've not decided what direction to go, I've got some root safe left, so ill decide when that runs out Smile
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leejr
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

leejr wrote:

I re-potted my serrisa and she is showing signs of decline, i.e leaves turning yellow and shriveling up, she looks very unhappy Sad


well i gave some superthrive and she is looking so much better. Signs of new growth are showing Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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mo's bonsai
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Question is "Which product is better, Superthrive or HB-101?
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leejr
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

well since i last posted on this subject my Serrisa is looking very frail.
Compared to the pictures at the bottom in the styling page.
She is still alive after 2months or so of decline but it is not looking good since the re-pot. I haven't changed its position and still water when needed and mist twice daily. I just cant seem to pull it round.
i know Serrisas a very fickle and am putting it's bad health down to the re-potting, but could there be any other factors? I was also thinking that maybe it's 2 close to the window at around 1meter away now that the sun is stronger than a couple of months ago. And if this is the case then i am worried about moving it as i know they don't like change, and in such a bad way that would surely finish her off..................... Sad Sad Sad

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Stymie
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Your's still looks better than one that I am trying to revive for a friend Lee. I don't think that a metre away from a window is too near. On the contrary. I would have thought it was too far away. Why am I saying anything though, it's just the nature of the beast to be awkward Rolling Eyes Keep trying buddy.
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leejr
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

I got chatting to the fella at Bodiam Bonsai and told him the trouble im having with my serrisa. He suggested that i should defoliate it( so as it did not get sun burnt) and put it outside as the sun was a natural antiseptic for it.
Is this sound advice in your opinion?
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Stymie
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

Any kind of change or stress makes them sulk as we all know. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

I know what you are saying Don and i suppose to a degree i agree that they don't like change. Not that i have made any changes to mine other than re-potting it and putting under an icu , Having been looking around on the net i have found some good + and not so good advice. One piece of advice that i have tried is an icu ( intensive care unit) for my tree. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg218/leejrphotos/DSC00045.jpg?t=12 12947717.... The only problem i seem to be having with this is mold. I remove the icu daily so as to allow new air in. Other than raising the icu up of its surface to leave a gap ( which kind of defeats the reason for the icu) so air can circulate all day. i suppose i just don't want to sit back and watch my tree shrivel up and die with out trying my best to help it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

While defoliation would definiately stop it from dropping leaves during a move, it is an evergreen and I don't know how well it would take being naked.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: superthrive alternative Reply with quote

The icu will certainly help increase<